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Only the good die young...

"Túl gyalogolni mindig egy álmon és menni a másik után..."

Thanks a bunch

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Your welcome ^^

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Only the good die young...

"Túl gyalogolni mindig egy álmon és menni a másik után..."

sigh, like i said i will not continue spamming that girls work, especially after she asked.
one of the reasons why i just didnt want to have that conversation, this is just not the place.
and about the forum posts, so what ? new guys, there still some very very veteran, they comment once in a while but some are still there.
like no place has some people who dont have "complete knowledge" of it, and they say they love raziel but want to stay dead because thats how the believe it should be, no cheesy way out.
and he was "dying", considering his is sucked into the sword for eternity.

it is known that kain cared more about raziel, but thats mostly because he believes he needs raziel and his help to achieve his destiny, along the way raziel saw a few of the motives kain counted on and why he threw him into the abyss = less hate, but still some, he was condemned for years and years of suffering :E
nothing romantic in it.. he just uses metaphors that he is still what he was as a vampire, his right hand, it is stated that is what he was, his sword, he needs too, doesnt mean he wants really to be, although it probably comforts him to know it will help raziel win over that bastard the elder god.

and little kids ? why ? whats ur age ? besides, u really think the age matter so much ? mostly younger children are foolish, but many times they can be even smarter, dont go against them just because of their age.

No what would be cheesy is if Raziel didn't come back. That would be fucking stupid.

And If Kain was only using Raziel for his destiny, then why did he risk his life, his rule, and everything he worked for by appearing before him in Avernus Cathedral?
Even after he saw the murals that Raziel was supposedly the Hylden savior, the very enemies he despises, and would kill him.
Not to mention Raziel is the only person who could kill him by devouring his soul.

Raziel did not hate Kain. He wanted to know why Kain did that to him after he was so loyal to him.
He simply lost a lot of trust in Kain which he eventually gained back through the course of the games.

If Raziel did not love Kain he wouldn't have been his 'right hand' in the first place. You do realize Raziel risks alot by saving Kain too, because Kain eventually had the Blood Reaver.
At anytime Kain could've just trapped him in the blade when Raziel wasn't cooperating.
That IS very romantic. The change time for BOTH of their destinies to be together.

Look I'm 18 and your 15 acting like a 5 year old. You just refuse to believe they are gay because you can't stand gays.
Why can't you at least admit that you don't want to look at them that way, even though I have stated all the proof, because you for some reason hate gays and are too close-minded?

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as much as i like Raziel, and he is my all time fav character ever, bringing him back, would be cheesy, its like bringing people who are dead back to life in some.. stupid way or just ruining it..
like.. lets say.. in some game this women, important women dies, gets stabbed in the chest, everyone wants her to get to life, with some ways like, her necklace was right at the spot it hit ! or her teleportaion powers came back and she went to a safe spot ! (it has to do with the game P: anyhow its just ruining it), she gets fished out of the water (she fell in the water :E ) her friend comes and saves her, what ever it is all just.. no.. just no.. maybe raziel somehow talks through the sword or is one with kain or wtv.. but bringing him back would kinda ruin it..
btw im 16 about, and 2 years difference is hardly much, and it hardly has any meaning considering its about facts and story of a game, the only thing that matters is how i act (civilized or swearing) and my level of language.
again, ur proof are not.. proof |: u dont call this stuff proof u call the theories based on what u believe, if it was stated by the auther or in the game that they are gays, its proof, stated by anyone els has no meaning.
and what u said, still, does not count as proof, no one, apparently more then just most people, dont see it to hint love relationship, and if it was so obvious then most would have noticed.
again, all that u have said, as a guy, who has friends, this is naturel and hints nothing but raziel not hating kain anymore or just accepted his fate of being kains sword for the better, and kain needing raziel and considering him a pal or friend, which is nothing i didnt know before, kain never hated raziel like raziel did.

and u just keep calling me names |: hows thats acting older ?
now answer this question with truth, do u really believe this argument will ever end ?

Well everyone says that when a character makes an 'ultimate sacrifice' it's cheesy to bring them back. But many characters in many other series make the 'ultimate sacrifice' and they come back. That doesn't make the series cheesy. If they aren't going to bring Raziel back in the actual game at least bring him back in the ending after everything is over.

Actually it would be better to end the series with Defiance and just let the fans interpret what happens next.
It will give Eidos no opportunity to
make a sequel that is not up to all it's predecessors, and fuck up the series.

Also I never sweared at you. And The only name I called you was 'immature'.
Which considering the fact that you can't seem to type 'you' instead of the correct spelling type 'u' is quite accurate.
Would it really kill you to type two more letters?

You say my proof is not proof how?
It is spelled out for you in the game
and there are many LOK Fans who DID realize it, and ARE into the Kain X Raziel pairing.

If you remember in Soul Reaver 1 when Zephon says to Raziel
"And You are not his Hansome Raziel anymore..."
Um and exactly what do you think that hints at?
And I already described many other examples in the games depth for you.
Not to mention, what is up with these extremely suggestive metaphors used in the game to describe them?
Like 'Fighting' each other with their 'reavers'. Raziel 'stealing Kain's heart'. Raziel becoming Kain's 'right hand' once again.

At the end of Defiance you say that is 'ordinary'. I beg to differ.
I have seen many other series/movies where a person is dying in their friends' arms. I have never seen anyone act the way they did.
Especially those people who are only 'friends' and are also the same gender.
Raziel sounds like he's having some kind of massive orgasm when his energy is being drained.

Let's face it. The way you are.
Even if Amy Hennig herself did indeed say that they were gay, you would still refuse to believe her.

To answer your question will the argument ever end. Well I can keep on going til the end of time.
Would you like me to name and cite all the examples of Kain X Raziel? If you like I can do that just for you.
You are the only person who hasn't accepted the coupling that I have even explained to before. However to further spread the fandom I could go the extra mile for you.

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if Amy would have said that of course i would be forced to agree, that will be a FACT.
and im sure there are many who are into it, regardless of they being gay or not, u know how on many games they take the characters into gay or other stuff even if the game doesnt have to do with it. also it could be because of having long conversations like this, that i am about to admit it just avoid any more X:
and some, could be truly believing that.
and what the hack does it bother that i say u, instead you, its exactly the same about ,very easy to understand, and shorter to write.. it doesnt mess up the letter like other weird short cuts ( :b4, 10x etc).
oh and defiance's end isnt "ordinary", neither is the story, i dont think any movie or game had similarity of whats happening..

alright and wait sec, sounds like having a massive orgasm ?? how the fuck come ? >_> if he sounded like that people would be bound to notice, he also should have sounded kinda happy.. there he just had troubles breathing :E

u know what ? i dont care if he comes back or not now, just make another game. just to have a proper ending.
thanks for the special treatment but i am getting tired of writing this long comments and this :E

now if u would like to talk about something els like the time i fell asleep on the floor with my feet in the heater and woke up when the socks started burning. then il be happy too.

Well people do notice the realationship of Kain X Raziel.

Actually despite Raziel having difficulties breathing with that reaver lodged in his chest, he still sounded happy to be with Kain once more.

It's pretty stupid that you say that I have no proof that they are in love.
Yet at least I have very reasonable explanations.
You just keep saying "They're only friends" yet you have no reasons or scenerios from the game to refer to to to back it up.

It's also really stupid that you discredit anyone who thinks they are gay and especially if they too, have simialr proof.

I will agree that sometimes people make up alot of stupid pairings in some series that make no sense. Now that is stupid. But if they have very reasonable explainations as to why they like a couple then I don't mind.

Plus I found the Ending of Defiance to be a proper enough ending. Kain says he has hope to change time now and that doesn't really require a sequel. It's best if the fans just assume what will happen for themselves. In a way that would probably be more satisfiying than taking a risk on being disappointed in the next game which Eidos may blow.

By the way my brother said that you said that you made me cry. I did not cry at any time.
It takes much more to make me cry trust me.
I mean you say gay people are evil but I say that's a good thing. Hopefully they will kill all the fucking stupid retards in this word so the population of humanity will be greatly deminished.

Also that journal was not even refering to you.
Believe or not I have many internet arguements, and not just about this subject or series.
I am very knowledgable in Education and other Anime/Videogame series which I also know everything about as well.

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Rose a.k.a. Goddess Millenia (n) - Your Source for Legacy of Kain : Kain and Raziel love (only)
My Deviant Art Gallery: [link]
My Website: [link]
Kain and Raziel